The Qualcomm Snapdragon X Architecture Deep Dive: Getting To Know Oryon and Adreno X1
by Ryan Smith on June 13, 2024 9:00 AM ESTThe curtains are drawn and it’s almost showtime for Qualcomm and its Snapdragon X SoC team. After first detailing the SoC nearly 8 months ago at the company’s most recent Snapdragon Summit, and making numerous performance disclosures in the intervening months, the Snapdragon X Elite and Snapdragon X Plus launch is nearly upon us. The chips have already shipped to Qualcomm’s laptop partners, and the first laptops are set to ship next week.
In the last 8 months Qualcomm has made a lot of interesting claims for their high-performance Windows-on-Arm SoC – many of which will be put to the test in the coming weeks. But beyond all the performance claims and bluster amidst what is shaping up to be a highly competitive environment for PC CPUs, there’s an even more fundamental question about the Snapdragon X that we’ve been dying to get to: how does it work?
Ahead of next week’s launch, then, we’re finally getting the answer to that, as today Qualcomm is releasing their long-awaited architectural disclosure on the Snapdragon X SoC. This includes not only their new, custom Arm v8 “Oryon” CPU core, but also technical disclosures on their Adreno GPU, and the Hexagon NPU that backs their heavily-promoted AI capabilities. The company has made it clear in the past that the Snapdragon X is a serious, top-priority effort for the company – that they’re not just slapping together a Windows SoC from their existing IP blocks and calling it a day – so there’s a great deal of novel technology within the SoC.
And while we’re excited to look at it all, we’ll also be the first to admit that we’re the most excited to finally get to take a deep dive on Oryon, Qualcomm’s custom-built Arm CPU cores. The first new high-performance CPU design created from scratch in the last several years, the significance of Oryon cannot be overstated. Besides providing the basis of a new generation of Windows-on-Arm SoCs that Qualcomm hopes will vault them into contention in the Windows PC marketplace, Oryon will also be the basis of Qualcomm’s traditional Snapdragon mobile handset and tablet SoCs going forward.
So a great deal of the company’s hardware over the next few years is riding on this CPU architecture – and if all goes according to plan, there will be many more generations of Oryon to follow. One way or another, it’s going to set Qualcomm apart from its competitors in both the PC and mobile spaces, as it means Qualcomm is moving on from Arm’s reference designs, which by their very nature are accessible Qualcomm’s competition as well.
So without further ado, let’s dive in to Qualcomm’s Snapdragon X SoC architecture.
Setting The Stage: Elite, Plus, & Currently Announced SKUs
As a quick refresher, Qualcomm has announced 4 Snapdragon X SKUs thus far, all of which have been made available to device manufacturers for next week’s launch.
Qualcomm Snapdragon X (Gen 1) Processors | |||||||
AnandTech | CPU Cores | All Core Max Turbo | Two Core Max Turbo | GPU TFLOPS | NPU TOPS | Total Cache (MB) |
Memory |
Snapdragon X Elite | |||||||
X1E-84-100 | 12 | 3.8 GHz | 4.2 GHz | 4.6 | 45 | 42 | LPDDR5X-8448 |
X1E-80-100 | 12 | 3.4 GHz | 4.0 GHz | 3.8 | 45 | 42 | LPDDR5X-8448 |
X1E-78-100 | 12 | 3.4 GHz | 3.4 GHz | 3.8 | 45 | 42 | LPDDR5X-8448 |
Snapdragon X Plus | |||||||
X1P-64-100 | 10 | 3.4 GHz | 3.4 GHz | 3.8 | 45 | 42 | LPDDR5X-8448 |
Three of these are “Elite” SKUs, which are defined by their inclusion of 12 CPU cores. Meanwhile Qualcomm is offering a single “Plus” SKU (thus far), which cuts that down to 10 CPU cores.
Officially, Qualcomm isn’t assigning any TDP ratings to these chip SKUs, as, in principle, any given SKU can be used across the entire spectrum of power levels. Need to fit in a top-tier chip in a fanless laptop? Just turn down the TDP to match your power/cooling capabilities. That said, to hit the highest clockspeed and performance targets of Qualcomm’s chips, a good bit of cooling and power delivery are required. And to that end we aren’t likely to see X1E-84-100 show up in fanless devices, for example, as its higher clockspeeds would largely be wasted by a lack of thermal headroom. This won’t stop lower-performance chips from being used in bigger devices as budget options, but the SKU table can also be considered as being roughly sorted by TDP.
And while not the subject of today’s disclosure, don’t be surprised to see further Snapdragon X chip SKUs further down the line. It’s become a poorly kept secret that Qualcomm has at least one further Snapdragon X die in development – a smaller die with presumably fewer CPU and GPU cores – which we expect would make up a more budget-focused set of SKUs farther down the line. But for now, Qualcomm is starting with their big silicon, and consequently their highest-performing options.
Even though the first Snapdragon X devices won’t reach consumers until next week, it’s already clear that, judging by OEM adoption, this is going to be Qualcomm’s most successful Windows-on-Arm SoC to date. The difference in adoption compared to the Snapdragon 8cx Gen 3 is practically night and day; Qualcomm’s PC partners have already developed over a dozen laptop models using the new chips, whereas the last 8cx could be found in all of two designs. So with Microsoft, Dell, HP, Lenovo, and others all producing Snapdragon X laptops, the Snapdragon X ecosystem is starting off much stronger than any Windows-on-Arm offering before it.
Snapdragon Compute (Windows-on-Arm) Silicon | ||||
AnandTech | Snapdragon X Elite | Snapdragon 8cx Gen 3 |
Snapdragon 8cx Gen 2 |
Snapdragon 8cx Gen 1 |
Prime Cores | 12x Oryon 3.80 GHz 2C Turbo: 4.2GHz |
4x C-X1 3.00 GHz |
4 x C-A76 3.15 GHz |
4 x C-A76 2.84 GHz |
Efficiency Cores | N/A | 4x C-A78 2.40 GHz |
4 x C-A55 1.80 GHz |
4 x C-A55 1.80 GHz |
GPU | Adreno X1 | Adreno 8cx Gen 3 |
Adreno 690 | Adreno 680 |
NPU | Hexagon 45 TOPS (INT8) |
Hexagon 8cx Gen 3 15 TOPS |
Hexagon 690 9 TOPS |
Hexagon 690 9 TOPS |
Memory | 8 x 16-bit LPDDR5x-8448 135GB/sec |
8 x 16-bit LPDDR4x-4266 68.3 GB/sec |
8 x 16-bit LPDDR4x-4266 68.3 GB/sec |
8 x 16-bit LPDDR4x-4266 68.3 GB/sec |
Wi-Fi | Wi-FI 7 + BE 5.4 (Discrete) |
Wi-Fi 6E + BT 5.1 | Wi-Fi 6 + BT 5.1 | Wi-Fi 5 + BT 5.0 |
Modem | Snapdragon X65 (Discrete) |
Snapdragon X55/X62/X65 (Discrete) |
Snapdragon X55/X24 (Discrete) |
Snapdragon X24 (Discrete) |
Process | TSMC N4 | Samsung 5LPE | TSMC N7 | TSMC N7 |
A big part of that, no doubt, comes down to the strength of Qualcomm’s architecture. The Snapdragon X packs what Qualcomm promotes as a vastly more powerful CPU than the Cortex-X1 core found on the most recent (circa 2022) 8cx chip, and it’s being built on a highly competitive process with TSMC’s N4 node. So if all of the stars are properly aligned, the Snapdragon X chips should be a massive step up for Qualcomm.
Meanwhile, there are two other pillars that are helping to hold up this launch. The first, of course, is AI, with the Snapdragon X being the first Copilot+ capable SoC for use with Windows. Requiring a 40+ TOPS NPU, the 45 TOPS Hexagon NPU in the Snapdragon X makes the SoC the first such chip to offer this much performance for neural network and other model inference. The second pillar, in turn, is power. Qualcomm is promising nothing short of amazing battery runtimes with their SoC, leveraging their years of experience producing mobile SoCs. And if they can deliver on it while also hitting their performance goals – allowing users to have their cake and eat it, too – then it will setup the Snapdragon X chips and the resulting laptops nicely.
Ultimately, Qualcomm is looking for their Apple Silicon moment – a repeat of the performance and battery life gains that Apple reaped when switching from Intel’s x86 chips to their own custom Arm-based Apple Silicon. And partner Microsoft, for their part, really, really wants a MacBook Air competitor in the PC ecosystem. It’s a tall order, not the least of which is because neither Intel or AMD have been sitting still over the past few years, but it’s not out of reach.
With that said, Qualcomm and the Windows-on-Arm ecosystem do face some obstacles that means Snapdragon X’s launch trajectory can never quite match Apple’s. Besides the obvious lack of a single unified party developing the hardware and software ecosystem (and all but shoving developers forward to produce software for it), Windows comes with the expectations of backwards compatibility and the legacy baggage that entails. Microsoft, for its part, has continued to work on their x86/x64 emulation layer, which now goes by the name Prism, and the Snapdragon X launch will be the first time it really gets put to the test. But even with years of Arm support within Windows, the software ecosystem is still slowly taking shape, so Snapdragon X will be more reliant on x86 emulation than Apple ever was. Windows and macOS are very distinct operating systems, both in terms of their histories and their owners’ development philosophies, and this is going to be especially apparent in the first years of the Snapdragon X’s lifetime.
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Terry_Craig - Thursday, June 13, 2024 - link
Almost a year and all Qualcomm throws at the public is more slides and marketing material? Where are the third-party reviews?Ryan Smith - Thursday, June 13, 2024 - link
Next week.mukiex - Thursday, June 13, 2024 - link
Ryan, I legit appreciate the "A Note on x86 Emulation" section. Literally answered the biggest questions I had on this that nobody else has covered, as far as I can tell. 10/10.Terry_Craig - Thursday, June 13, 2024 - link
Finally... Finally... I was also tired of just seeing marketing stuffabufrejoval - Thursday, June 20, 2024 - link
I think the usual benchmark stuff has been covered sufficiently by now.The only remaining question for me is battery life and there specifically where it might really differ from existing x86 laptops.
From what I remember reading the SoC itself has become somewhat of a minor energy consumption player on light desktop loads, which is how most professional computer users spend time in front of a screen. So I don't even know if there is enough wiggle room for a 2-3x battery time improvement without going to passive displays and really slow low-power storage.
What it comes down to is mostly this question: do I need to take the charger into my all-day meeting or can I even leave it at home when I go on a week-long busines trip?
And can I forget about my power button actually be a power button like on my phone, where most of the time it's used for things like camera control.
Pretty sure it won't be the week-long trip just yet, but not bothering with chargers for all-day meetings seems to have been a major win for the fruity cult.
And somewhere in between those two is the question of how low the Snapdragons will go in lid-down mode, which could be suspend to RAM or even some usable kind of modern standby where e.g. voice commands or messenger actions might still be processed with something ultra-low power. And there the main quality benchmark would be how quickly you can resume normal operations without e.g. draining 10 minutes of idle battery for one resume.
From what I read between the lines of your deep dive, the granularity at which large swaths of the SoCs transistors could go and remain dark might be vastly better than with x86 designs and their iGPUs. And its the ability to tickle adequate responsiveness from phone wattages that would make a Snapdragon PC worth having, not it's ability to beat x86 on Cinebench.
Cinebench on an RTX 4090 makes it rather clear that any investment into CPU power for that use case is plain folly.
TheProv - Monday, July 1, 2024 - link
Hey Ryan are you guys doing a review?yeeeeman - Thursday, June 13, 2024 - link
yeah, also getting a bit tired of this hype hype hype.they kinda did this in their disadvantage tbh.
meacupla - Thursday, June 13, 2024 - link
They are launching on June 18th, so the review embargo probably lifts on the 17th or 18th.Dante Verizon - Tuesday, June 18, 2024 - link
Apparently not.shabby - Thursday, June 13, 2024 - link
Some benchmarks are leaking out, prepare to be disappointed https://www.tomshardware.com/laptops/snapdragon-x-...