China Calling: Huawei’s Media Tour, Kirin 950 and Why We Went
by Ian Cutress on December 4, 2015 8:00 AM ESTMoving The Smartphone Target Market
It may seem obvious but part of point of trips is to generate dialogue. Huawei is interested in what we have to say about the perception users outside China have of them, as well as our opinion on their latest product trends, and we’re interested in Huawei both internally for how they work, generating ideas/products, but also externally and how they approach different markets, especially moving into North Americas and expanding in Europe.
While Huawei has been on the periphery of most tech media since the launch of the P1 and the P2, and more prominently so with the Mate 7 and the P8, they are still a brand with little recognition outside of technology enthusiasts in the West. Huawei is well known in China, and product launches are well attended with lots of interest, as well as deep discussions with the media, but it is only recently that they have begun to extend invitations to similar outlets in the west. Part of it is to explain their story, their philosophy, and the other part is to explain to journalists such that they can run their own interpretation, providing Huawei smartphone reviews with at least an element of analysis about the company in general at the same time.
A cynic might argue that in order to get a foothold into the US or expand in EMEA, there needs to be a combination of a large targeted marketing campaign as well as a definitive product individualization, such as an Apple device, or a Samsung, though to LG’s Flex or HTC’s characteristic look. But even then, HTC’s current situation is in a state of flux despite heavy marketing for a number of reasons, meaning that a big push has both potential risk and reward. As part of this trip, we discussed with Huawei on how exactly we perceive the smartphone market, what are the interesting elements of it and how Huawei can open up to us with both information, structure, and sampling.
It was quite telling that during a roundtable discussion, the journalists around the room were asked what sort of products they were interested in. It was almost a unanimous chorus pointing towards the flagship models for two main reasons – firstly, most other companies provide flagship devices, so there is a rolling comparison and knowledge of an adapting market, but the second point was that the flagship devices typically bring in more variance, engineering prowess and showcase the best of the company talent. Both points are certainly true, and I (Ian) personally can’t disagree with their responses.
The Huawei Mate S - the company's current flagship device
My argument was slightly different, especially if we compare to the industries I regularly write about; from my perspective, I’d prefer to test the popular devices. With a $600 smartphone, everyone has an opinion on the design, the hardware, the benchmark results, or simply fanboyism, but not everyone has $600 to spend. While a lot of users might discuss the virtues online, or debate over small details, the reality is that a good portion will opt for something around the $250-$300 range for their main device or family devices, depending on contract, region, availability and other features. This is similar to when we get $2000 laptops, or $500 motherboards – lots of discussion, but in reality fewer people will buy them and go for the $800 2-in-1s or sub-$160 motherboards.
Andrei brought up a good point regarding this, which relates back to the first point about mainly reviewing flagships – if you test in the $250 range for smartphones, then there are 80 or so devices to choose from and the review either has to be in a vacuum comparing to almost nothing or based on the limited knowledge of what exactly is in the market, as it's impossible to review every alternative that exists out there. It provides an interesting dilemma for companies like Huawei and their competitors, because depending on what the media wants to look at will dictate what products the manufacturers will sample for review and/or how many are distributed. Thankfully Huawei are open on this and are willing to entertain our future device requests.
This becomes all important for entry into their non-standard regions, if they feel that there needs to be more presence that just a flagship model. Huawei over the years has slowly reduced their smartphone lineup from around 80 new models a year to fewer than 25, even though most of us only ever discussed three or four of those in 2014/2015 (P8/P8 Lite, Mate 7 and Honor 6). Chances are that the metric of devices moving into the west should increase over time, in both flagship and mid-range markets especially.
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krumme - Friday, December 4, 2015 - link
Great article for us that develops business :) - thanxzeeBomb - Friday, December 4, 2015 - link
Wow... A beautifully written journal of your past experiences Ian! First time I've actually get to see the Anandtech bunch in a photo too. Great story man!Ryan Smith - Saturday, December 5, 2015 - link
In the interest of transparency, I have removed 3 comments from this discussion thread. I don't believe attacking my editors or other editors based on their looks is appropriate, even with our liberal comment policy.Amazing2u - Sunday, December 6, 2015 - link
Ryan, Seriously?! WOW... some people really have no class! WTH gives anyone the right to comment on the looks of someone else? how shallow can you be. geez.JKflipflop98 - Tuesday, December 15, 2015 - link
Only every person you've ever met or ever will meet. The first thing they (and you) do when meeting people is judge them by their looks. It's automatic.AndrewJacksonZA - Tuesday, December 8, 2015 - link
That caused me to raise an eyebrow.Thanks for curating Ryan.
AndrewJacksonZA - Tuesday, December 8, 2015 - link
Err, moderating.Scipio Africanus - Wednesday, December 9, 2015 - link
Wow really? Who'd do that? You guys need more group photos. Its cool to see after reading this site for so long. The guys from Ars have always had a smattering of group photos through the years.jjj - Friday, December 4, 2015 - link
In 2014 Huawei's R&D spending was 40.8B CNY so some 6.5 billion $ at the time and about the same as Apple.Ofc for Huawei it was some 14.5% of revenue while Apple is at a bit above 3%.In the end Huawei is not really Chinese, they behave just as bad as Western companies, eager to ripoff their customers and sell them overpriced garbage if they get the chance. This year pretty much all their devices are that.
In design at least they might get it that hey need to shrink the upper and lower bezels or that home buttons are insane but they haven't shown more than that so far.No innovation that matters, not even the minimal inspiration to use a fast SoC in almost everything. The 950 should be used across the board, all in all it would be a huge upside for them. But they won't do that because they are just as blind as Samsung and all the others and given their pricing 2016 is likely to be a poor year for them.
So, for now, Huawei is yet to show us that the world would be poorer without them. Nobody needs another Apple or another Samsung or LG. We have way too many of those already.
jjj - Friday, December 4, 2015 - link
Source for the R&D numbers (get the PDF, check page 37) http://www.huawei.com/en/about-huawei/annual-repor...