AMD AM1 Kabini Part 2: Athlon 5350/5150 and Sempron 3850/2650 Tested
by Ian Cutress on May 29, 2014 2:00 PM ESTAMD Kabini AM1 Conclusions
After dealing with enthusiast mainstream CPUs for so many years, wrapping your head around 2 GHz dual/quad core parts again is somewhat mindboggling, feeling like I have just pulled out one of those first dual core systems when they hit the enthusiast mainstream segment. I am glad that several years down the line they are now the low-end part of the market, and it raises the bar of the minimum performance of a desktop into something more usable as well as a rise in the quality and grunt of integrated graphics, all within a low cost framework.
To cut straight to the chase, our review here pitted all four new AMD Kabini AM1 Socketed Desktop APUs against the two Intel Bay Trail-D SoCs that matched up closer in specifications. Both sides of the coin features 2-4 cores ranging from 1.3 GHz to 2.4 GHz, as well as integrated graphics solutions to sufficiently tackle all regular daily tasks asked of them. The best match up was the AMD Athlon 5350, a quad core 2 GHz part with 128 SPs at 600 MHz against the Intel J1900, a quad core 2 GHz (2.4 GHz Turbo) part with 6 EUs at 688 MHz.
AMD Athlon 5350 vs. Intel Celeron J1900 | ||||
Athlon 5350 | Celeron J1900 | |||
CPU Architecture | Jaguar | Silvermont | ||
CPU Cores | 4 | 4 | ||
CPU Frequency | 2.05 GHz | 2.0 GHz / 2.4 GHz Turbo | ||
GPU Cores | 128 SPs | 6 EUs | ||
GPU Frequency | 600 MHz | 688 MHz | ||
Memory Channels | Single | Dual | ||
Memory Frequency | 1600 MHz | 1333 MHz | ||
L2 Cache | 2 MB | 2 MB | ||
TDP | 25 W | 10 W | ||
Price | $59 | $82 |
If we directly compare these two, we see a range of different characteristics. The Intel CPU takes the crown in floating point tests, potentially indicating a better scheduler when dealing with floating point numbers. The 3DPM test shows that here, as well as some of the more general purpose benchmarks such as the Media/Data segments of SYSmark 2014. There is also the power consumption to consider, as the Bay Trail-D CPUs have only a 10W TDP. The Athlon 5350 takes the majority of the integer based operations, such as Cinebench and FastStone, as well as the TrueCrypt benchmark due to its included AES-NI hardware acceleration. Other items such as the web benchmarks showed little difference between AMD and Intel.
However where the Athlons stand out is in the associated IGP benchmarks. In our 1280x1024 low resolution game tests, the top two Athlons (5350, 5150) approached 30 FPS average whereas the Bay Trail-D CPUs struggled with half that frame rate. The same comes down to synthetics (3DMark), although some of the more CPU focused game benchmarks (draw calls) narrowed the gap.
When it comes to discrete GPU tests, as our Intel samples only had a closed PCIe 2.0 x1 slot, we were unable to compare directly with AMD’s Kabini. In the global scope of things however, the AMD Kabini platform paired with a high powered GPU (AMD 7970, GTX 770) managed 30 FPS+ in 9 out of 12 of our benchmarks at 1080p with maximum detail using the Athlon 5350. Even in Battlefield 4 single player with these high settings, a 20.7 FPS minimum indicates that a few notches down on image quality makes it readily playable. However using such a powerful GPU is perhaps not the best scope for such a platform.
When using the systems and running the tests, it was clear with the two Semprons that during basic use, such as web browsing and navigation, it did feel a little slower than what I was used to. The web browsing tests show that up quite well, with the Kraken benchmark showing a +50% slower time to complete on the quad core Sempron vs. the top level Athlon. This delay was not show stopping, and using an SSD alongside the system almost certainly helped with that.
Another point of sale for AMD Kabini will be in integrated systems, such as digital signage, library computers or similar. From this perspective, as long as the system is not doing severe rendering on the fly (such as more than 1280x1024 on low with modern engines) but needs more computational power than say a Raspberry Pi, then the Kabini AM1 platform offers a good implementation and a low cost. The next step from here would be to see small form factor devices that could also be upgradeable - something that could fit onto a VESA mount perhaps.
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mikk - Thursday, May 29, 2014 - link
G1820 is missing or at least a cheap Haswell Pentium.hojnikb - Thursday, May 29, 2014 - link
Yes that would be really great, since those chips are price about the same.jospoortvliet - Sunday, June 1, 2014 - link
These do use far more power.On that note, why on earth doid the reviewer compare power usage over idle (never seen that particular metric at anandtech?!?) While not mentioning the idle power (according to various other sites, the amd's sport significant lower idle power). I don't like to think so but this is probably the only power metric to make the atoms look remotely good... Why was it chosen?
savagemike - Thursday, May 29, 2014 - link
I agree completely. If I were building a budget desktop right now that is exactly the chip (or similar) which I'd be comparing these to.MikeMurphy - Thursday, May 29, 2014 - link
I can buy a G3220 Haswell Pentium running at 3.0ghz for $60. I was really hoping this would make it into this review!!Stuka87 - Thursday, May 29, 2014 - link
The G3220 is a 53W chip. These are 25W chips. They do not compete with each other.HisDivineOrder - Friday, May 30, 2014 - link
Atom chips are 10W chips. These Semprons are 25W. They do not compete with each other.See how that doesn't impact the fact that people are talking about more than just wattage? ;) Some people just want to know what the best VALUE is per dollar and these low end options are all in the running.
Why limit yourself to just discussing wattage-appropriate? Especially when those Semprons are already over twice the Atom chips in terms of watts.
bsim500 - Friday, May 30, 2014 - link
"The G3220 is a 53W chip. These are 25W chips. They do not compete with each other."Intel's TDP is way overstated on its dual-cores. My "55w" i3 pulls about 32w in reality (measured at the wall, not calculated). I've seen Haswell Pentium's that are sub-30w, (full speed not the slow "T" variants). They are very definitely in the same bracket. In fact, at stock 3.4GHz, with a -0.15v undervolt, I can get my "77w" i5-3570 down from a measured 59w (1.1v) to around 47w (0.95v). At 3.0GHz at 0.83v, you're looking at 36w 4T / 25w 2T (for an i5). AMD's Kabini's are still on 28nm vs Intel's 22nm, and you'd be surprised just how low you can go with undervolting the latter's "big cores".
silverblue - Friday, May 30, 2014 - link
The point is moot as AMD is known for overvolting its processors; an article on Kabini would be very interesting.lyeoh - Sunday, June 1, 2014 - link
Which is why this article needs some actual power consumption benchmarks.