The MSI Titan GT77 Review: Desktop-Class Core i9-12900HX Tested
by Brett Howse on September 1, 2022 10:00 AM EST- Posted in
- Laptops
- Intel
- MSI
- Alder Lake
- Alder Lake-HX
Battery Life
Performance-focused notebooks rarely achieve excellent battery life, although the benchmark has been raised in the last couple of years. A device like the MSI Titan GT77 is designed to be plugged into power for most of the time though, and the component choices reflect that. With a massive RTX 3080L Ti processor, four sticks of DDR5-4000, three M.2 SSDs, and a 360 Hz display, the idle power draw of this system is significant. The display does at least switch to 60 Hz automatically when you unplug the laptop from AC power. This notebook also supports both hybrid graphics (NVIDIA Optimus) as well as discrete only, and for the battery testing the notebook was configured in hybrid mode.
To combat the high power draw, MSI has fit in a 99 Wh battery, which is bumping into the largest viable battery in a laptop computer since you can not take a battery larger than 100 Wh on to a commercial flight.
For all of our battery life measurements, the display is set to 200 nits which on this device was 59%.
Web Battery Life
At 380 minutes of runtime, the Titan GT77 was able to surpass the Raider GE76 we tested a few months ago. It is still a long way from the all-AMD ASUS G513QY. AMD has really done an excellent job power-gating their graphics.
Looking at the normalized results, which removes the battery size from the equation, the power efficiency of this over the Raider GE76 is pretty good. It is surprising since this notebook has quad-channel memory, compared to just dual-channel in the Alder Lake HX powered Raider GE76.
Movie Playback
Movie playback is offloaded to fixed function decode in the iGPU, so it is generally one of the tasks that uses the least amount of energy. That is the case here as well, although the base power draw of the rest of the system does mask it somewhat.
Our Tesseract score divides the movie playback runtime by the length of The Avengers, and the Titan GT77 can almost get through three viewings of that movie before shutting down.
Battery Charge Time
The Titan GT77 ships with a 250-Watt AC Adapter, but it has a very large 99 Wh battery to fill. Laptops meant for on the go often offer fast-charging options, but this desktop-replacement system does not, so the charge time is a very average three hours.
Storage Performance
The review unit that was provided shipped with three Samsung PM9A1 drives with each being 1 TB in size. The PM9A1 is a very quick PCIe 4.0 SSD from previous testing.
The results are not quite as strong as the Raider GE76 unit, which shipped with three 2 TB PM9A1 drives. In the world of storage, larger drives offer increased parallelization and, at least when looking at the same model, are generally faster, so the 2 TB outperforming the 1 TB is not unexpected. The PCIe 4.0 drive still performed very well though with the smaller capacity.
Wireless
MSI equips the Titan GT77 with Killer’s AX1675i wireless networking solution, which is a Wi-Fi 6E solution based off the Intel Typhoon Peak lineup which includes both this Killer and the Intel AX210. For those that prefer hardwired networking, the Killer E3100G adapter is a 2.5 Gbps solution with an Ethernet jack found on the right side of the device.
Our test bed for Wi-Fi is the ASUS ROG Rapture GT-AX11000 which is Wi-Fi 6, but not 6E, so it does not support the 6 GHz range. Performance on 5 GHz for the Killer AX1675i was excellent though. Intel’s Wi-Fi offerings are the best in the PC space, with very stable drivers and excellent performance.
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meacupla - Thursday, September 1, 2022 - link
DDR5-4000 is really disappointing, even with 4x16GB.Does it at least work in 4800 if you only use 2x16GB sticks?
BlakLanner - Thursday, September 1, 2022 - link
Disappointed at the 2.5G wired networking. My GT75 Titan had a 10Gb Aquantia NIC and I had a lot of use for that in my line of work.Darnassus - Thursday, September 1, 2022 - link
It sucks there's no 1440p version..kpb321 - Thursday, September 1, 2022 - link
"Being a desktop processor, the maximum memory supported is also increased from 64 GB to 128 GB. MSI offers four DDR5 slots for users to upgrade their memory in the Titan GT77. The review sample came with 4 x 16 GB of DDR5-4800 system RAM for 64 GB total, running at DDR5-4000 speeds in quad-channel."This seems to be a little misleading because it makes it sound like the 4 DIMMs are needed for quad channel and this has a very wide memory bus but that isn't the case. DDR5 makes each DIMM into 2 channels half the width of DDR4 so the overall bus width is still the same. EG four 32bit channels instead of two 64bit channels. This is not four 64bit channels as that is still limited to HEDT/Workstation/Server products.
Ryan Smith - Thursday, September 1, 2022 - link
Thanks. That's an unforced error on our part. That should (and now does) read "2 DPC configuration" rather than "quad-channel".Technically, a 128-bit DDR5 memory bus is quad channels. But that's not the point we were trying to make.
shabby - Thursday, September 1, 2022 - link
Are the temperature charts missing on purpose? loldeil - Tuesday, September 6, 2022 - link
The whole thing is 3.3 KG, so I assume it's 2.5KG of heat pipes and copper/alu to get rid of it.it's like 400W total of heat dissipation and yes I think thermals were excluded on purpose, forced by intel, or anandtech would not be able to post the review otherwise before full cpu release and NDA's expiration.
what I see is that it's just a hair above 5900hx, probably because it's not heat soaked all of that copper when tested.
This thing is a burst monster, and otherwise gaming crapware, not worth 5000$ at all.
100% it will be heat soaked in 5 min, and rest of the gaming session you will have both 50'C on your keyboard, and lower FPS.
If we comare that to 7'th gen AMD that is teased by AMD to be 60% higher than current series at 65W (so gaming laptop level) I expect 12900HX to be smeared on the ground like a biker who crashed at 300km/h.
deil - Tuesday, September 6, 2022 - link
I cannot redact my previous comment, but I think you can get to the point i was making.What I see is you can make that point from battery life and charging, Massive battery and short lived on web, means it's a very power hungry setup.
3h to fill, 3h to discharge, comparing to AMD 2 hours to charge and 6h to discharge respectively. (with very similar 220W-250W bricks I am sure of it)
lemurbutton - Friday, September 2, 2022 - link
Anandtech lost a lot of good CPU review talent when Andrei and Ian left. Now we get the same old Cinebench benchmarks that Youtubers run.Cinebench is a terrible CPU benchmark.
tamalero - Saturday, September 3, 2022 - link
Wut? how the hell its a bad benchmark?