The MSI Creator TRX40 Motherboard Review: The $700 Flagship for Threadripper
by Gavin Bonshor on February 26, 2020 11:30 AM EST- Posted in
- Motherboards
- AMD
- MSI
- Ryzen
- TRX40
- Threadripper 3000
- Creator TRX40
- 3970X
- sTRX4
Power Delivery Thermal Analysis
One of the most requested elements of our motherboard reviews revolves around the power delivery and its componentry. Aside from the quality of the components and its capability for overclocking to push out higher clock speeds which in turn improves performance, is the thermal capability of the cooling solutions implemented by manufacturers. While almost always fine for users running processors at default settings, the cooling capability of the VRMs isn't something that users should worry too much about, but for those looking to squeeze out extra performance from the CPU via overclocking, this puts extra pressure on the power delivery and in turn, generates extra heat. This is why more premium models often include heatsinks on its models with better cooling designs, heftier chunks of metal, and in some cases, even with water blocks such as the ASUS ROG Crosshair VIII Formula.
The 16-phase power delivery on the MSI Creator TRX40
Testing Methodology
Out method of testing out if the power delivery and its heatsink are effective at dissipating heat, is by running an intensely heavy CPU workload for a prolonged method of time. We apply an overclock which is deemed safe and at the maximum that the silicon on our AMD Ryzen Threadripper 3970X processor allows. We then run the Prime95 with AVX2 enabled under a torture test for an hour at the maximum stable overclock we can which puts insane pressure on the processor. We collect our data via three different methods which include the following:
- Taking a thermal image from a birds-eye view after an hour with a Flir Pro thermal imaging camera
- Securing two probes on to the rear of the PCB, right underneath CPU VCore section of the power delivery for better parity in case a probe reports a faulty reading
- Taking a reading of the VRM temperature from the sensor reading within the HWInfo monitoring application
The reason for using three different methods is that some sensors can read inaccurate temperatures, which can give very erratic results for users looking to gauge whether an overclock is too much pressure for the power delivery handle. With using a probe on the rear, it can also show the efficiency of the power stages and heatsinks as a wide margin between the probe and sensor temperature can show that the heatsink is dissipating heat and that the design is working, or that the internal sensor is massively wrong. To ensure our probe was accurate before testing, I binned 10 and selected the most accurate (within 1c of the actual temperature) for better parity in our testing.
For thermal image, we use a Flir One camera as it gives a good indication of where the heat is generated around the socket area, as some designs use different configurations and an evenly spread power delivery with good components will usually generate less heat. Manufacturers who use inefficient heatsinks and cheap out on power delivery components should run hotter than those who have invested. Of course, a $700 flagship motherboard is likely to outperform a cheaper $100 model under the same testing conditions, but it is still worth testing to see which vendors are doing things correctly.
Thermal Analysis Results
We measured 57.5 °C on the hottest part of the board during our testing;
the top left-hand corner of the sTR40 socket.
The MSI Creator TRX40 opts for a true 16-phase power delivery for the CPU with sixteen TDA21472 70 A power stages controlled by an Infineon XDPE132G5C PWM controller. Cooling this is a large finned aluminium heatsink which is connected to a large dense rear panel cover and the actively cooled chipset heatsink. This is designed to spread the heat load with other components with the aim of dissipating as much heat as physically possible.
In our testing, the MSI Creator TRX40 performs well with a maximum temperature of 53°C which is around 8°C warmer than the ASUS ROG Zenith II Extreme, but the latter does include actively cooled heatsinks on the power delivery. MSI is using an efficient design for the power delivery, and our VRM probe temperature reading of 54°C is consistent with the integrated thermal sensor.
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timecop1818 - Wednesday, February 26, 2020 - link
For when you spend nearly $4000 on a useless processor and have another $700 burning a hole in your pocket.Korguz - Wednesday, February 26, 2020 - link
yea ok intel shill, go to wccftech where you belongMikewind Dale - Wednesday, February 26, 2020 - link
Useless for you, maybe. But others may have a use.For example, I'm currently working on a multi-threaded statistical regression that takes 3 days to run on an 8-core Ryzen. I'd love to have 64 cores.
mrvco - Wednesday, February 26, 2020 - link
Useless in the 'my idea of gaming is running benchmarks at 1080p with dual RTX-2080 Ti GPUs' sense.bill.rookard - Wednesday, March 4, 2020 - link
Ouch! Yeah - having 8 times the physical cores would cut that down to... what? About 9-10 hours from 72 hours? I can see where you may need something like that. Imagine if you had 2P Epyc? You could run 2 sims in an 8 hour workday...nandnandnand - Wednesday, February 26, 2020 - link
Lol, I remember you from first post on the TR 3990X article:https://www.anandtech.com/show/15483/amd-threadrip...
You are useless and need a banning.
extide - Wednesday, February 26, 2020 - link
Imagine living a life so banal and boring that all you can do is get the first post on every AMD article and bash it.ingwe - Wednesday, February 26, 2020 - link
I would at least hope they are a paid shill. But who knows. Really wish they would ban them thoughrahvin - Thursday, February 27, 2020 - link
There's no reason to ban him. He's a shill, everyone knows it. He's had the gall to defend a $20K Intel processor with half the cores and trash talk the AMD processor that's both cheaper and more powerful in every regard in the same comment.You should remember, there's a pretty good chance he's a kid that feels like he bought into a "team" (or tribe) when he purchased his first Intel CPU and feels the need to defend that team at every point. It's human nature to try to show tribal loyalty, though you wish more people could see they are doing it and realize how dumb it is.
Irata - Friday, February 28, 2020 - link
Very well put.