Sager NP9262 - Overview
The final entrant in our roundup of gaming laptops comes from Sager, a company that focuses exclusively on laptops. That makes navigating their website a little easier, since you don't have to sort through various desktop and notebook options, and they might have a slightly better feel for the mobile environment. Sager currently has seven shipping notebook models, all based on Intel platforms, and we received their maximum performance NP9262 for review.
We received our test laptop several months ago, so the component selection is a little outdated compared to what is currently available on Sager's website. Other than upgrades to the CPUs and GPUs, however, the platform remains the same. Current models now ship with Penryn processors and GeForce 9800M graphics cards, which should only improve performance relative to what we received (and perhaps improve battery life slightly, although that's clearly not the primary concern).
This is without a doubt the 800-pound gorilla of gaming notebooks - literally. Okay, so it only weighs 11.5 pounds, but compared to most other laptops this thing is huge. It also ships with pretty much the most powerful mobile computing components currently available. It competes with notebooks such as the Dell XPS M1730, with SLI graphics cards and up to three internal hard drives (with RAID 5 support). Combined with the decision to use desktop processors instead of the typical mobile processors, the NP9262 is firmly in the realm of desktop replacement (DTR) notebooks.
Besides being the largest laptop we've ever tested, the Sager NP9262 also holds the distinction of having the largest power brick we've ever seen. If you pack everything up in a carrying case, you're easily looking at lugging around over 15 pounds of notebook. (We measured 16.8 pounds for the laptop, carrying case, and power brick.) Sager does include a notebook bag with the laptop, so at least you won't need to look around for a separate bag. Despite the size and weight, it's also interesting to note that the Gateway P-series notebooks won't fit into this laptop bag, as they are wider and deeper than the NP9262 but only about half as tall.
Dissecting the Sager NP9262 is a relatively straightforward process. Looking at the bottom, the three hard drives are located towards the front of the notebook, two in a small cage and the third underneath the battery. Worth mention is that the battery is actually screwed into the chassis, so if you want to swap batteries you will need a screwdriver or coin in order to remove the battery. Despite the relatively large size of the battery, you're still looking at 60 to 90 minutes of battery life tops, so we don't expect most people will be looking at battery life as a major selling point. This notebook's intended to be carried from one location to another and then plugged in rather than something you would want to use on the road.
Getting at the remaining components involves the removal of a large cover that hides the CPU, GPUs, memory, and fans. The memory is beneath one of the fans, which makes upgrading memory more difficult than on many other notebooks, but as long as you go with 2x2GB of memory on your initial configuration, that won't matter. Removing the CPU heatsink requires that you remove the fan that covers the memory as well as the CPU heatsink, which is relatively simple. It's possible to get at the GPU MXM modules in a similar manner, although without the ability to upgrade modules there's not much point in doing so. Considering the cooling configuration and size of the notebook, however, we can only hope that Sager and their partners will eventually offer upgraded MXM modules for users who purchase the current systems.
One potential concern with desktop replacement notebooks is whether they will be able to handle the cooling requirements of high-end components. It's interesting to note that the NP9262 is currently shipping with dual 9800M GT cards (essentially the same as the 8800M GTX but with a 20% higher GPU core clock) or a single 9800M GTX (112 SPs compared to 96 SPs on the 9800M GT). Dual 9800M GTX cards are not currently supported in the online configurator; whether that's simply an issue with the supply of 9800M GTX or a power/heat limitation is unclear. Looking at the cooling arrangement, we are inclined to rule heat out as a potential cause for concern, but power requirements at full load are already very high so that seems a likely limitation.
The NP9262 is a thick laptop with four very large heat sinks and cooling fans. Two of these are for the graphics chips, one is for the memory and CPU, and the third is for the chipset and additional cooling for the CPU. Even with a desktop CPU, we never had any serious concerns with the laptop overheating - just make sure the four vents on the bottom of the notebook are not obstructed and you should be fine. As a corollary to that, we would not recommend using the NP9262 on your lap for long, as it can get quite warm - and the same applies to the other three notebooks in this roundup, which in some cases actually get hotter than the Sager.
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JarredWalton - Monday, September 1, 2008 - link
We reviewed that http://www.anandtech.com/mobile/showdoc.aspx?i=324...">six months ago. Dell hasn't updated it to support the 9800M (yet?), but otherwise it would be very comparable in performance to the Sager unit. The Sager is still a bit faster because of the desktop CPU, and it consumes a bit more power and is a bit heavier. The Dell is also more expensive because of the cost of mobile CPUs, so if you want i.e. an X9000, it's over 3X the cost of an E9500. Since both weigh a lot and cost a lot, you might as well get the fractionally larger Sager/Clevo.cheetah2k - Monday, September 1, 2008 - link
I understand you reviewed the 1730 6+months ago (and I bought one based on that review with the extreme CPU and SLi 8800GTX's) however some of us would like to see how it still stacks up to the competition, and being a "round-up" and all, I think it makes sense to include it, even if its just for old time sake.JarredWalton - Tuesday, September 2, 2008 - link
I did mention the laptop, and there are a few games where we tested on both laptops. However, we don't generally get to hang onto $5000 laptops for a long time, so I can't just go back and retest the M1730. In terms of performance, the Sager is going to be slightly faster on the CPU, but overall gaming performance is a tie. If I were to pick between the two now, I would probably go with the Sager for the high-end, because price is a bit cheaper for the same level of performance. Plus you can run quad-core if you want (though that's not really useful for games). I'd be much more likely to go with the Gateway units for the price, but obviously the Dell and Sager are over twice as fast in most games.SniperWulf - Friday, August 29, 2008 - link
While I agree with you on the astetics of the P series, its price/performance ratio and upgradability are unmatched at the moment. A few months back, I picked up a 6860FX and have been nothing but pleased with it. I've replaced the CPU with a used X7800 ES, and swapped the hard drives for 2x Hitachi 200GBs in a Raid 0 array.I didn't do it all at the same time of course, but thats the beauty of it. Whenever you need a lil bit more horsepower, all you have to do is just shop around for parts
Kardax - Friday, August 29, 2008 - link
I took a chance and got a P-7811 a couple weeks ago. Its stability has been rock-solid, even after hours of intense load.My only complaint would be that the keyboard has a Bluetooth enable/disable option, but there's apparently no Bluetooth hardware inside...
JarredWalton - Friday, August 29, 2008 - link
Hi guys,I'm *sure* there are typos in the article (or errors in speech recognition). I've spent most of the past two days trying to finish all the writing and graphs, so go easy on me while I get some sleep. In the meantime, if you want to point out errors, reply to this post and we'll (eventually) correct them. Hopefully, none of the issues "ruin" the article for you or make it "unreadable". ;-)
Good night,
Jarred Walton
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