Sager NP9262 - Overview
The final entrant in our roundup of gaming laptops comes from Sager, a company that focuses exclusively on laptops. That makes navigating their website a little easier, since you don't have to sort through various desktop and notebook options, and they might have a slightly better feel for the mobile environment. Sager currently has seven shipping notebook models, all based on Intel platforms, and we received their maximum performance NP9262 for review.
We received our test laptop several months ago, so the component selection is a little outdated compared to what is currently available on Sager's website. Other than upgrades to the CPUs and GPUs, however, the platform remains the same. Current models now ship with Penryn processors and GeForce 9800M graphics cards, which should only improve performance relative to what we received (and perhaps improve battery life slightly, although that's clearly not the primary concern).
This is without a doubt the 800-pound gorilla of gaming notebooks - literally. Okay, so it only weighs 11.5 pounds, but compared to most other laptops this thing is huge. It also ships with pretty much the most powerful mobile computing components currently available. It competes with notebooks such as the Dell XPS M1730, with SLI graphics cards and up to three internal hard drives (with RAID 5 support). Combined with the decision to use desktop processors instead of the typical mobile processors, the NP9262 is firmly in the realm of desktop replacement (DTR) notebooks.
Besides being the largest laptop we've ever tested, the Sager NP9262 also holds the distinction of having the largest power brick we've ever seen. If you pack everything up in a carrying case, you're easily looking at lugging around over 15 pounds of notebook. (We measured 16.8 pounds for the laptop, carrying case, and power brick.) Sager does include a notebook bag with the laptop, so at least you won't need to look around for a separate bag. Despite the size and weight, it's also interesting to note that the Gateway P-series notebooks won't fit into this laptop bag, as they are wider and deeper than the NP9262 but only about half as tall.
Dissecting the Sager NP9262 is a relatively straightforward process. Looking at the bottom, the three hard drives are located towards the front of the notebook, two in a small cage and the third underneath the battery. Worth mention is that the battery is actually screwed into the chassis, so if you want to swap batteries you will need a screwdriver or coin in order to remove the battery. Despite the relatively large size of the battery, you're still looking at 60 to 90 minutes of battery life tops, so we don't expect most people will be looking at battery life as a major selling point. This notebook's intended to be carried from one location to another and then plugged in rather than something you would want to use on the road.
Getting at the remaining components involves the removal of a large cover that hides the CPU, GPUs, memory, and fans. The memory is beneath one of the fans, which makes upgrading memory more difficult than on many other notebooks, but as long as you go with 2x2GB of memory on your initial configuration, that won't matter. Removing the CPU heatsink requires that you remove the fan that covers the memory as well as the CPU heatsink, which is relatively simple. It's possible to get at the GPU MXM modules in a similar manner, although without the ability to upgrade modules there's not much point in doing so. Considering the cooling configuration and size of the notebook, however, we can only hope that Sager and their partners will eventually offer upgraded MXM modules for users who purchase the current systems.
One potential concern with desktop replacement notebooks is whether they will be able to handle the cooling requirements of high-end components. It's interesting to note that the NP9262 is currently shipping with dual 9800M GT cards (essentially the same as the 8800M GTX but with a 20% higher GPU core clock) or a single 9800M GTX (112 SPs compared to 96 SPs on the 9800M GT). Dual 9800M GTX cards are not currently supported in the online configurator; whether that's simply an issue with the supply of 9800M GTX or a power/heat limitation is unclear. Looking at the cooling arrangement, we are inclined to rule heat out as a potential cause for concern, but power requirements at full load are already very high so that seems a likely limitation.
The NP9262 is a thick laptop with four very large heat sinks and cooling fans. Two of these are for the graphics chips, one is for the memory and CPU, and the third is for the chipset and additional cooling for the CPU. Even with a desktop CPU, we never had any serious concerns with the laptop overheating - just make sure the four vents on the bottom of the notebook are not obstructed and you should be fine. As a corollary to that, we would not recommend using the NP9262 on your lap for long, as it can get quite warm - and the same applies to the other three notebooks in this roundup, which in some cases actually get hotter than the Sager.
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yyrkoon - Friday, August 29, 2008 - link
Yeah, I would not expect my desktop to beat the laptop performance wise(in games), but with what I have for resolution/monitor wise it does perfectly fine for me.It is just that lately, since we are going 100% green energy(solar/wind), or as close to 100% as possible, I have been on this power consumption 'kick'. I would hope that the Intel motherboard with the desktop G45 chipset, and x4500HD would use half of what I am using power wise now with my current desktop, but I suspect that I would have to get the laptop based mini itx motherboard/CPU/memory for it to be truly where I would like to see things power wise. Even only 100W is roughly 8.33 amps off of the batteries on a 12v system : / Depending on how many batteries you have, that can be substantial.
I do realize that gaming on the Intel mini ITX boards would take the back seat because of performance, but it would be a perfect machine for running almost everything except for games. That is, until Photoshop, Illustrator, etc start leveraging the GPU/parallel processing.
Oarngemeat - Friday, August 29, 2008 - link
Good article - but the Alienware is not the first laptop with dual graphics cards like this. Maybe for a gaming laptop, but my Sony SZ is getting close to two years old and can do the same thing. Sounds like it even does things the same way, I have to reboot to switch graphics. I've seen it average at about 50% battery performance increase too.JarredWalton - Friday, August 29, 2008 - link
That's why I say the first laptop *we've* tested. Besides, a midrange (at best) GPU that can be disabled isn't quite as useful as a high-end GPU that can be switched on/off.denka - Friday, August 29, 2008 - link
I liked the article, but I've been looking on the Internet for a review that could tell me how good are ATI's 3650's, of which ASUS seemingly is a fan seeing how they have 5 models for sale on Newegg :)Still looking.
denka - Friday, August 29, 2008 - link
Sorry, must have been a stupid question. Found my answers on www.notebookcheck.netJarredWalton - Friday, August 29, 2008 - link
I've asked AMD to get me a notebook with 3000 series graphics, but no one has been able to do so yet. Outside of the 3870, though, graphics performance will be relatively mediocre. I've got a few midrange notebooks with 9500M/8600M GPUs that I'm reviewing, and one with a Radeon 2600. Performance is around 1/3 of the 9800M GTS in gaming. Many games (GRID, Mass Effect, Assassin's Creed, etc.) need to run at 1280x800 and low to medium detail on such laptops before they can get solid frame rates.fabarati - Saturday, August 30, 2008 - link
The performance of midrange laptop cards go: 9600m GT GDDR3> HD3650> 8600m GT GDDR3> 9600m GT=HD2600 GDDR3>8600m GT DDR2=9500m GS DDR2>HD2600 DDR2. Now there are a few more nVidia cards, just to muddle the waters more, but this should give rough performance estimates. 9500m GS is just a rebadged 8600m GT.On my HD2600 DDR2 I play Assassin's Creed with everything on max at 1280x800. On the other hand, my max is for some reason lvl 3 instead of 4. Solid framerates for one person is not the same as for someone else. Some can't stand below 40, som don't see the difference between 30 and 60. For me, over 25 is quite fluid. It helps that Ass Creed has motionblur. That smooths things up.
Oh, And i've OC'd the Graphics memory a bit. That helps too.
flahdgee - Friday, August 29, 2008 - link
I grabbed an Alienware laptop 3 or 4 years ago, and I expected to be able to game on it. I had the Geforce 6800 Ultra Go put in it and had overheating problems from the start. I had to send it into the company for repairs to the motherboard from various components burning up. Whether I got a defective component somewhere that was tearing it up, I don't know, but it has turned me completely off to laptops, gaming ones in particular.Wolfpup - Friday, August 29, 2008 - link
I'd just be scared off of Alienware-which I am anyway...I'm shocked that even the build quality is garbage. I don't get the point of that 15x thing. Dell's 1730 is SOOOO much better built, and it's higher end, for basically the same price. Those Gateway models seem to be a lot better built too, for at least $1000 less (or worse...)
cheetah2k - Monday, September 1, 2008 - link
Anandtech, you call this a "gaming laptop round-up"??Wheres the almighty Dell 1730 with dual 8800GTX's in all its glory? The little girls to scared to come out to play??
Who wants an Alienware, Gateway or Sagem-blahh??? Build quality and service is just shocking....
Get a grip fellas